Ale Roads Lead to Beer

From Minnesota to Texas and back again, this episode of The Brewery Adventure is all about finding great beer wherever the road takes you.

We catch up on a few happenings around the Twin Cities, including Dangerous Man's return, Pride Dabbler, and World Cup watch parties at La Doña Cervecería.

Then it's off to Dallas where Courtney turned a work trip into a mini beercation with stops at Peticolas Brewing Company, Manhattan Project Beer Co., and Pegasus City Brewing. 

Back in Minnesota, we look ahead to upcoming events, especially All Pints North as they announced this year's festival will be the last one held in Duluth.

EPISODE BEERS (from Wandering Leaf Brewing):
Courtney: Pen Name Fermentation Project: Hana Bier, Czech Pale Lager
Dan: Ossuary, Helles

LINKS:

• Courtney’s Untappd
• Dan’s Untappd
• A One Pint Stand
  • La Doña Cervecería Is Now A Brewpub

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:02

Oh, I have to start.

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Hit it.

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Welcome to the Brewery Adventure. I'm Courtney.

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And I'm Dan. We're here to dive into the world of your local brewery.

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It's not just about the beer, it's about the vibe, the people, and the stories behind every tap room.

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From small neighborhood spots to big bustling brew houses, we'll bring you along for the ride. So grab a pint and join us on the Brewery Adventure. Cheers. Aw, very good.

SPEAKER_00 0:25

Fonk, drink.

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Fonk, drink. Now we can complain about the World Cup and penalty kicks. Because what a stupid way to decide a high-stakes sporting event. We just watched Paraguay squeak by Germany.

SPEAKER_06 0:39

Yes.

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Sorry, y'all, you strudel munching Yodelers. The Paraguay sees the day.

SPEAKER_00 0:48

I thought I thought the penalty kick situation was going to be like another set of kicks, like they did out of five. I thought they were going to drop it down to like the out of three, but that was just like a sudden death thing.

SPEAKER_05 0:58

Sudden death. Well, I actually didn't see it because I had to pee. Wait, it's just a good thing. It's humid.

SPEAKER_00 1:11

It says the guy who went into the sauna tonight.

SPEAKER_05 1:13

Yeah, that's weird. It was actually cooler in the sauna than it was outside. So yeah. We're here at Wandering Leaf.

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We are here at Wandering Leaf.

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Our the brewery adventure home away from home, as I like to call it.

SPEAKER_00 1:27

I'm pretty sure they're putting our logo on the wall.

SPEAKER_05 1:30

There's still space.

SPEAKER_00 1:35

Yeah, it'll be great.

SPEAKER_05 1:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:36

It's it's for sure happening.

SPEAKER_05 1:38

I hope so.

SPEAKER_00 1:38

Make sure you ask about the next time you stop in.

SPEAKER_05 1:40

That's right. When's the brewery adventure mural going up? The what now?

SPEAKER_00 1:44

Yeah. I think I think if people ask, I should give them a beer. Yeah. You ask Wandering Leaf, I'll buy you a beer.

SPEAKER_05 1:49

That's right. But I I think it should be more than ask. You know, get the ball rolling on some sort of signage.

SPEAKER_00 1:56

Yeah. If I just start sketching it out.

SPEAKER_05 1:58

I think you could do that.

SPEAKER_00 1:59

They have a different mural that's supposed to go on that wall pretty soon though, I think.

SPEAKER_05 2:02

Yeah, you don't want to have dueling murals.

SPEAKER_00 2:04

No, that'd be a bad idea. Dan, what are you drinking?

SPEAKER_05 2:07

I've got the osuary, the award-winning ossuary, first place, from the Minnesota Brewer's Cup Ossuary. That ossuary. It's really good for a day like today. It's an easy drinker. Now, how many recordings have we done here where I've been able to drink a bit weird in it? Because I'm a little sad. This is the first time that we've recorded that I haven't been able to drink a bit weird in it because it kicked last week. Which makes me sad.

SPEAKER_00 2:31

You sent me a message letting me know this, and I I did have a moment of sadness for you. But then I also thought, like, it's a good thing. It means people were drinking it and it's gone now.

SPEAKER_05 2:39

Don't be sad because it's over. Be happy because it happened.

SPEAKER_00 2:41

Yes. Yeah. And now you can brew an entirely new beer with them.

SPEAKER_05 2:45

So many people got weird with a beard that I had my hands in. Literally. Yeah. So the Oswary, another good, you know, 5.4% ABB, I want to say. Somewhere in that range. It's very, very easy drinking. Easy on the liver. Easy on the temperature. Just nice, nice to have it. So yeah, it's uh it's good.

SPEAKER_00 3:10

I went with the I don't know if it's the Hannah beer or the HANA beer from Penn Name Fermentation Project.

SPEAKER_05 3:16

Yeah. I don't know how to pronounce it either.

SPEAKER_00 3:18

I don't either. And I was asking them up there and no one was quite sure. So I'm gonna say HANA because that sounds fancy. HANA, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 3:25

It's I think that's it's named for the specialty malt that they used, I want to say, I think.

SPEAKER_00 3:30

Is that specialty malt called Hana or Hana?

SPEAKER_05 3:33

I don't know. But it sure is good because I've had that beer many, many on many an occasion. It's delicious. It's delicious. Yummy, yummy, yummy.

SPEAKER_00 3:40

I feel like I made a good choice tonight.

SPEAKER_05 3:42

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 3:42

One of many.

SPEAKER_05 3:43

I mean, being here is a good choice. Just walking in the door, seeing all the plants, the people. I drew it. And I'm glad we're inside. I just think. There was a couple sitting outside. What are you? I'm like, those people must be serial killers.

SPEAKER_00 3:53

I saw a couple sitting outside and they had pants on. Like, how are you surviving right now?

SPEAKER_05 3:57

Who's wearing pants in the summer? Nobody wears pants right now. Dear Lord.

SPEAKER_00 4:00

This is no pant weather.

SPEAKER_05 4:01

This is one of many things that things that's wrong with America.

SPEAKER_00 4:04

America.

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Lose the pants, people.

SPEAKER_00 4:06

It's summertime. Yeah, no pant weather. I know. I drove by here last night, and it made me so sad to not stop.

SPEAKER_05 4:13

I was here last night. Well, last late evening. In the late afternoon, actually. It was like more like 5 30.

SPEAKER_00 4:19

This would have been a little bit later. I had to drive by it twice. One time they were for sure closed, but the earlier time open, but not with me here.

SPEAKER_05 4:25

And you didn't stop in. That's a bummer.

SPEAKER_00 4:27

I know. Sad times. We've got some stuff to catch up on. We do. Our last episode we did with Grunge Unplugged, and it was so exciting.

SPEAKER_02 4:44

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 4:44

I mean, just in case one of them's not available for a show, I it sounds like you could just step in.

SPEAKER_05 4:49

My mouth is is uh ready to jump on stage. Always.

SPEAKER_00 4:53

So after after that show, they played um when we did the recording and it was released, the Friday after that, they played a show at LTD that was supposed to be outside. And I I went there with Laura from Boom Island. By the time we got there, um it we were a little we were a little bit late. We might have had some pre-beers before go going over there.

SPEAKER_05 5:12

Like all good Friday evenings start with a few beers.

SPEAKER_00 5:15

Yeah, well she said pick me up at Boom Island, and how can you not have a beer before you leave?

SPEAKER_05 5:20

Yeah, that would have been that would have been rude to not have a big one.

SPEAKER_00 5:22

It would have been rude.

SPEAKER_05 5:23

A couple bowls of loudmouth soup before heading to the concert. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:26

And while we were at Boom, it was really lovely outside, and we were out on the patio, we had our beer, we went over to LTD, obviously after the music had started, except the rain had come.

SPEAKER_03 5:36

So Here comes the rain again. Getting in your beer and making it taste weird. Bam maw, talk to me.

SPEAKER_00 5:46

Yeah, you were on fire tonight.

SPEAKER_03 5:48

Get more beer. Yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 5:50

This is my audition tape for Grunge On Fully in case uh also I had a random thought today. We should have asked this. The uh drums that they play are called cajones.

SPEAKER_06 6:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 6:02

And in Spanish, if you get hit below the below the equator, you get hit in the cajones. Is that like the multiple, like so like your your drums? Like if you get hit in the crotch, that's hit hitting your little drums.

SPEAKER_06 6:16

I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 6:16

We're gonna follow up with that.

SPEAKER_04 6:18

We need to interview them again.

SPEAKER_05 6:24

Cajones. Yeah, that that was that I'm like, I wonder if cajones is the plural form of cajon, and if cajon, that's like a slang term. There's a lot of slang terms.

SPEAKER_00 6:34

The thought crossed my mind, and I was trying to not be like a five-year-old about it and be like, oh tee. Maybe it's older than five that would be tahine about that.

SPEAKER_05 6:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:44

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 6:44

No, it's people across America have that have good senses of humor would laugh at that.

SPEAKER_00 6:49

I was trying really hard to keep it together.

SPEAKER_05 6:51

I'm gonna do uh five cajones jokes in the show. Uh sprinkle them in judiciously.

SPEAKER_00 6:56

This is not gonna go well for me.

SPEAKER_05 6:58

Olay!

SPEAKER_00 7:00

But yeah, so we we got the cajon sound. You do it.

SPEAKER_05 7:04

Do I have anything that's similar to that? Nope, so I'll just do this. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 7:09

We'll know what that means.

SPEAKER_05 7:10

Right in the cajon. There it is. So we should I'll I'll I will message them about that. I should have messaged you, because you could have asked Willard on the plane. Are we talking about that? We're gonna get up there. I don't want to put the cart before the horse.

SPEAKER_06 7:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 7:25

I don't want to put the cart before the cajon.

SPEAKER_00 7:28

Hooah!

SPEAKER_05 7:29

Number two.

SPEAKER_00 7:31

So we got to LTD. The rain had started. At first, like a gentle sprinkle, but everybody was kind of like covering their stuff up and coming inside. They weren't playing under a tent outside. They were on like a the back of a flatbed truck or something with no covering. So they were they were they covered up their stuff, but then it started to rain a lot harder. Okay. Um so they had to pull the the stuff inside and ended up like clearing out. I mean, LTD is not very big, we know this. Everybody who was outside now packed inside, but they somehow switched people around so they could still get their instruments in and set up and ended up finishing and playing out the rest of their sets inside. I can't, I this is not I just I just uh yeah.

SPEAKER_05 8:13

The wheels are spinning, but I I got nothing. Um okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 8:18

That's what happened.

SPEAKER_05 8:19

That's what happened.

SPEAKER_00 8:20

That's what happened.

SPEAKER_05 8:21

Did they continue the concert indoors? Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 8:23

Yeah, and it was great. It was a really fun time.

SPEAKER_05 8:25

What does a wet cojone sound like?

SPEAKER_00 8:30

But I will say we ended up uh sitting with the the guys from Heavy Rotation and they had listened to the episode, so we we were talking some Grunge Unplugged, and they they went on about they went on about how nice that band is to their staff and to them, to other people when they play shows that involve other bands. Like they're just really they're really generous and very gracious with other people, and that made me really happy.

SPEAKER_05 8:55

Now, something I want to clear up. I somewhat misspoke on the Grunge Unplugged episode.

SPEAKER_00 9:01

The first thing I heard when we sat down with the heavy rotation guy is Ken looks at me and he's like, What are you talking about? There's a Was Josh there? No.

SPEAKER_05 9:09

Okay. So some people do put lactose in hazy IPAs. I think in my brain, I got a wire crossed and I thought milkshake IPA.

SPEAKER_00 9:20

That's fair.

SPEAKER_05 9:21

Because they look the same. And you know, a a milkshake IPA is atrocious. And I would say uh hazy IPA with lactose is probably atrocious. But heavy rotation does does in fact not use lactose in their hazy New England IPAs. Yes. So I want to put that out there.

SPEAKER_00 9:38

Willard is gonna have to find a different reason why he has an allergic reaction to the next one.

SPEAKER_05 9:42

There is wheat though. Is he allergic to wheat?

SPEAKER_00 9:44

I don't know that. You can ask him about that when you ask him about his own.

SPEAKER_05 9:47

We also didn't ask him how the symptoms exhibit themselves. Does he get the sniffles?

SPEAKER_00 9:52

Or is it like a We did not do our jobs as interviewers?

SPEAKER_05 9:56

A lactose situation where like that's a little bit worse than the sniffles. More like something different. Yeah. Okay. So that's out there. Sorry, folks. I was I'm gonna I'm gonna chalk it up to end of the school year brain. That's that's that's the card I'm gonna play.

SPEAKER_00 10:16

So we're gonna allow it, Dan. Okay. We're gonna allow it. You're off the ball.

SPEAKER_05 10:19

Well, obviously you'll have me back because I'm here.

SPEAKER_00 10:22

Yeah, but like you might still get some grief from Ken at heavier rotation the next time you see him.

SPEAKER_05 10:27

That's fair. That's that's fine.

SPEAKER_00 10:28

Yeah, you can handle it. I've I believe in you.

SPEAKER_05 10:30

That's right.

SPEAKER_00 10:31

It'll be fine.

SPEAKER_05 10:31

We sat in a sauna for 30 minutes today. I can handle anything.

SPEAKER_00 10:34

I I don't understand why you would do this.

SPEAKER_05 10:36

Got a little distracted. I started listening to a podcast about fantasy baseball. And time flies when you're thinking about middle relievers to pick up on the free agent market.

SPEAKER_00 10:46

Making sense now.

SPEAKER_05 10:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:47

Making a lot of sense. Another cool thing that happened since our last recording, Dangerous Man. It's back, baby.

SPEAKER_01 10:55

It's back. Dangerous man with these tap room in the Miller Textile Building like a Phoenix rising from the ashes. Get there early and often.

SPEAKER_05 11:07

We had a heck of a time at their industry soft opening. I love those events because it seems like it's just a really fun party atmosphere. You see a lot of really cool people, and the energy was just so positive and so exciting. And just to be able to have peanut butter porter on tap again was a revelation. They had several other beers. And then following Thursday, they had their family and friends night.

SPEAKER_00 11:38

Did you go back for that?

SPEAKER_05 11:39

I didn't. I couldn't. I had to be out of town.

SPEAKER_00 11:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 11:42

But I was I was living vicariously through other people's posts. And then they had their grand opening on Saturday, June 13th. It was the 13th.

SPEAKER_00 11:53

My whole month has been a good one.

SPEAKER_05 11:55

The ninth was the Tuesday, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:57

It was a Saturday after that.

SPEAKER_05 11:58

I think at our production meeting I said the 20th, but that would not have been correct.

SPEAKER_06 12:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 12:03

So that was kind of a bummer uh to miss that. But I did wind up going the following Wednesday with my good buddy Bree Smith, the head brewer at Modest. And we went and had some beers, and it was kind of funny because we were talking about Josh and Jesse, and then they showed up.

SPEAKER_00 12:19

Like magic.

SPEAKER_05 12:20

Yeah, like magic. Like we were able to summon them. So that was really cool.

SPEAKER_00 12:24

If we if we say their names like three times fast, do they just walk in the door here tonight?

SPEAKER_05 12:27

Josh and Jesse. Josh and Jesse. Josh and Jesse.

SPEAKER_00 12:30

Now we wait and see what happens.

SPEAKER_05 12:32

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 12:33

You're watching the door.

SPEAKER_05 12:35

Oh, sorry. Yeah. It'd be fun if Josh and Jesse showed up. They're good people.

SPEAKER_00 12:40

Yes, they are.

SPEAKER_05 12:41

And Jesse celebrated a birthday. Can I tell you the amount of FOMO I had by not being able to be in town? Because there was like, there's been a lot of stuff. That was what was on the 20th. Was uh Jesse's 40th birthday.

SPEAKER_00 12:55

Happy 40th birthday.

SPEAKER_05 12:56

And it was a hot dog event. No, that was on the 13th. That was on the 13th. Damn it. So she had her hot dog party, and like I saw pictures. There were so many, they had a hot dog bar with a bajillion different toppings, and it looked so fun. And I just was like, ugh. I don't like to miss out on stuff.

SPEAKER_00 13:13

I know you don't. So that was hard.

SPEAKER_05 13:14

So happy birthday. Welcome to the 40s. Jesse, you're gonna love this decade. It's gonna be the best.

SPEAKER_00 13:19

I'm not gonna tell her she's gonna love this decade.

SPEAKER_05 13:22

I don't know. I've had way more fun in my 40s than I did in all of my 30s. For me, every decade has been better than the previous one.

SPEAKER_00 13:29

Maybe that's true. I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 13:31

But everybody's gonna everybody's different.

SPEAKER_00 13:32

So you're in a different trajectory.

SPEAKER_05 13:34

That's right. But so far, in yeah, I mean I'm 47. We got three years left. Maybe something. Well there have been some downer moments, but but as a whole, it's been good. You know, I just think it's as you grow older, I think it's applying life lessons and letting go of things that don't matter. Yeah. You know, we change as people, we change from decade to decade. And I think, you know, in my in my early mid-40s, I figured out, I think, what was important to my happiness. And I've really I really uh so what's there's a what does that sign say? We've got some sort of weird I'm gonna have to watch my mouth. We were here first. There's some sort of religious slash militia meeting happening behind us and somebody just walked in. It's uh in garb. Like if uh Garfunkel, if uh Art Garfunkel suddenly became a a Belgian monk, that guy just walked in and is seated down here. I don't know what's happening. There's some sort of uh is it like a religious thing?

SPEAKER_00 14:41

I'm really glad that my Ale Marys. Oh gosh.

SPEAKER_05 14:43

Aleys. You you uh you talk while I Google it.

SPEAKER_00 14:47

Okay, we we did we did there were two other events of note that we kind of missed out on. One I'm super sad about, the other I think is just worth noting. Um Surlee also celebrated 20 years on June 13th. They had a big event that day. I was unable to go, I don't think you went, but happy anniversary, Surly.

SPEAKER_05 15:06

Yeah, 20 years. And you know, they've had some real cool ups and some some downs. You know, the whole union busting thing by the butt you know it's um okay, so Ale Mary's is is a is a drinking establishment in Michigan. That's the only thing that comes up. And I've actually been to a brewery in Royal Oak, Michigan, way, way back in the day. Yeah, I don't know what's going on. We'll have to inquire at the break. Maybe we'll see if uh our Garf Uncle the Monk wants to come on here and say something.

SPEAKER_03 15:35

Hello, darkness, my old friend.

SPEAKER_05 15:39

I'm going to talk with you again. Yeah. Yeah, there I'm guessing it's it's gotta be some sort of like Hail Mary, it's gotta be a prayer group.

SPEAKER_00 15:48

Well, to go along with that, the other event that we missed was Pride Dabbler last Friday. Yes.

SPEAKER_05 15:53

Oh MG. You know, the sad thing is I've missed more Pride Dabblers than I've been to because it's always at a time of year when I am usually out of town. So I've been to the last three in a row, but I missed this one. And so it looked like a fun. This was the year that it didn't rain.

SPEAKER_00 16:11

The pictures looked amazing.

SPEAKER_05 16:13

Yeah, everybody seemed like everybody had a lot of fun. Yeah. My buddy Charles was there. He took my he's like, okay, use the press pass. I can I can't use it. Yeah. Pride Dabbler looked like a ton of fun. It always is. It's a very fun festival. Obviously. The entire month of June is fun and happy celebrating pride.

SPEAKER_06 16:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 16:34

I think homophobic assholes belong at the bottom of the ocean. And so, you know, if you're listening to this and you don't think that you should be able to love who you want to love, you can take a long walk off a short pier and get bent.

SPEAKER_00 16:49

Yep. That's all I got is a yep. That's right.

SPEAKER_05 16:55

But yeah, that's always a fun one. And they moved it. It's still at the sculpture garden, but they put it on the turf soccer field, which I was kind of jealous about because the last couple years it's been on the baseball field that's grass, and it always seems to rain right around the time or during the thing, and it turns into like a woodstock situation where there's mud. Oh and every time as you know, as a festival moves forward, yeah, people are continuing to imbibe on the great, delicious beers that are being poured, and I just try to reel like there's always a mud slick to get from like the one part to the other. I'm like, be careful, do not be the one who biffs it and lands in the mud. And so far, knock on wood.

SPEAKER_00 17:39

It hasn't been you?

SPEAKER_05 17:40

I have not done it yet. So being on a turf field just totally negates that threat.

SPEAKER_00 17:44

I've never been to a pride dabbler.

SPEAKER_05 17:46

Well, Dag Nabit, we're gonna go next year.

SPEAKER_00 17:49

Like last year was my first year of beer festivals, and I don't I don't remember why I missed that one. And then this year I was out of town for work, so couldn't be there for yeah.

SPEAKER_05 17:58

Yeah, that was probably well that yeah, we weren't really doing the show together yet.

SPEAKER_00 18:02

No.

SPEAKER_05 18:03

So we were just uh I think that was like early on in our beer friendship. I can chart I can chart the point where we became friends because we moved off Instagram Messenger to text message. I think you're like, if it's easier, you can just text me. Here's my phone number. I'm like, oh yeah, I suppose that that works better.

SPEAKER_00 18:22

The problem is I don't get like message alerts from Instagram, so if somebody messages me on Instagram, it's like sitting there until I've open up Instagram and see it.

SPEAKER_05 18:30

Yeah, but yeah, I was sad to miss Pride Dabbler. It looked like a lot of fun. It's it's such a great festival. I'm bummed. And Pride just looked like a lot of fun this weekend. I saw a lot of fun pictures. I know that I've tons of fun burlesque shows and different activities, different art things. It's really good. Really good. I I I love that it's got such I'm thankful we live in Minnesota where pride is embraced. Yes. And really just like it's one of the things that it's one of those things I I think is really important. So I'm glad people celebrate it the whole month of June.

SPEAKER_00 19:02

It makes me happy. That's right.

SPEAKER_05 19:04

Because once we hit July, we're gonna celebrate uh America.

SPEAKER_06 19:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 19:09

I think there were like 12 people at that fair that jumped in, so that's kind of fun. So Pride Dabbler was good. What's up next? What's up uh next on the docket?

SPEAKER_00 19:18

The reason I missed Pride Dabbler was because I was on a work trip in Dallas.

SPEAKER_04 19:32

Can you name that 80s TV theme song?

SPEAKER_00 19:37

It's really it's disturbing that you were just able to pull that out.

SPEAKER_05 19:41

We've talked about this on a previous show. Instead of dating in high school, I just listened to a lot of TV theme song CDs. So I have encyclopedic knowledge of a bunch of shows, but that was pretty good. Didn't really date much, which is fine. I was, as they say in science, I was a bit of a late bloomer. Yeah. Um, so yeah, Dallas.

SPEAKER_00 20:03

Dallas. Dallas had a lot going on. They were a World Cup location. So I got there on uh Tuesday. I think there was a game on that Tuesday night or match on Tuesday night. There was a match I tried really hard to get a ticket to on Thursday night, but ended up hanging out with my coworkers instead, which was fun. Yeah, that's fun. But the whole city, like everything is soccer themed down there for it. Like they have really they dove into all of this.

SPEAKER_05 20:30

I wish we could have hosted a game. That would have just been amazing. But also this year, with all the crap that uh DJT has done and basically ruined a lot of elements of it. I don't think I would have wanted it here because of all the ice and all the garbage. So yeah, oh well.

SPEAKER_00 20:49

It would have been a mess here.

SPEAKER_05 20:50

Yeah, but was it was it just were there just watch parties? Now, tell me all the different fan groups. I know Japan was there, Japan was there, Sweden was there, Argentina, Argentina. I don't know. Who did they play the other night?

SPEAKER_00 21:05

They played on Saturday night.

SPEAKER_05 21:07

Yes, yeah. So I mean those fanatic fans travel really well.

SPEAKER_00 21:13

They uh yes. Apparently, the thing is the night before their team's match, that's like the big party night for them. Yeah. So I went out on Friday night and I was warned going downtown that there's a bunch of wild Argentinians down there right now. Hey. Is that okay?

SPEAKER_05 21:30

And Argentinians, they know how to party. There was a family in Hopkins, the uh Monteros, and they would have these epic end-of-the-year parties, and they would invite all the teachers that taught their kids to their house, and they had a very nice house. And they would crack open like umpteen bottles of Argentinian wine and just have a big party. And I had their sons, Manu and Juan, in soccer, and Manu was obsessed with Messi. Like this. Like fifteen years ago. So like as Messi was like uh like coming into his own. Yeah, but yeah, he's already on board. He was Messi obsessed. Yeah, so Argentinians know how to throw down.

SPEAKER_00 22:11

But I think I think the the Japan contingency also they apparently had a a big like they had a whole shindig in the park the night before their match.

SPEAKER_05 22:21

See, I love that.

SPEAKER_00 22:22

It w it was pretty and it's just like everybody was excited about the soccer down there. I mean people here are excited too, but it's it's just a little bit different with it so close.

SPEAKER_05 22:29

I've talked to a lot of people that said before the World Cup they were not as excited just because of like all the weirdness around it. But like now that the games are going on, I think people are like pretty jazzed about it. I mean, we showed up here, watched the end of the Paraguay Germany game. It's just everywhere. I like how even people who don't like football in the World Cup, they can see kind of like the passion behind it and the fans, and we'll talk more about that later. But I'm glad you got to experience a place where the where the World Cup games were happening.

SPEAKER_00 22:59

I just I wish I could have made it over to actually be in the stadium.

SPEAKER_05 23:03

Yeah. Yeah, because I mean the last time it was here was 1994.

SPEAKER_00 23:07

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_05 23:08

That's a long time ago.

SPEAKER_00 23:10

And it could be a while until it comes back.

SPEAKER_05 23:12

That's right. If it's here in 30 years, I'll be 77.

SPEAKER_00 23:17

Oh, we'll be 77.

SPEAKER_05 23:19

Well yeah, we both will. We're still doing this.

SPEAKER_00 23:24

I'm gonna be 77, you're gonna be gone.

SPEAKER_05 23:26

Yeah, I guess we're yeah, we're because we're the same age. So wouldn't that be crazy if we're still doing this podcast in 30 years? Either something will have had to go horribly wrong or horribly right.

SPEAKER_00 23:38

Horribly right.

SPEAKER_05 23:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:39

But so even though it was a word a work trip going down to Dallas, I snuck in three brewery visits.

SPEAKER_05 23:45

That's awesome. Yeah, that's really sweet.

SPEAKER_00 23:47

I was hoping to get one in. Three was above and beyond.

SPEAKER_05 23:50

No, when you went back in January, you only went to one brewery, right? You had other beers on tap at different places. So three is pretty good.

SPEAKER_00 23:59

I I was trying to drink like local beers. I I do that wherever I go. Wherever I go, I want to drink what's local.

SPEAKER_05 24:04

Because you're a scholar and a genius, and uh you just understand how to find the bright spots in a city. Go to the beer places.

SPEAKER_00 24:14

Go to the beer places. Yeah. Yeah. The first one I went to uh was Petticolis. I don't know if I'm saying that correctly. That place I think is soccer themed, even if the World Cup isn't soccer. Oh, sure, okay. I think they have a pretty strong soccer vibe and they support the I think there's a local team in Dallas that they they heavily support. I I think they're a soccer thing to begin with.

SPEAKER_05 24:34

Yeah, Dallas has an MLS team, I know that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:37

So that was that was the vibe I got from them. But that place was really neat. It was it wasn't super big, it was a very narrow space, but it was three different levels, and they were kind of like all open to each other.

SPEAKER_06 24:49

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 24:50

So you walk in on the first level, but you can see up to the second level, and then on the second level, there's an overlook to the first floor, and then you can see up through a railing onto the third floor.

SPEAKER_05 24:59

That's cool. Yeah, you sent me some pictures. It looked like a really neat place.

SPEAKER_00 25:03

It was really cool. They had a really neat like spiral staircase in one corner, and the beers that they had on tap, a lot of them had soccer themed names for the World Cup. Okay. A lot of their merch, they added like soccer balls and stuff to. Again, like some of it was very specifically like World Cup 2026. Okay. But I think they're just naturally a soccer, a soccer brewery.

SPEAKER_05 25:23

See, that's fun. I like when a brewery has an identity or is the place to go for this thing that a lot of people can go and then find their group, find their people, you know?

SPEAKER_00 25:34

Yeah. They had lots of TVs set up around, but they were kind of like in these little little nooks and corners. So they'd have a TV that would be for a couple tables in one side, and then a TV like on the first floor that people could look over the balcony and look down and watch that one. And then up on the third floor, they had a couple more. They had TVs all over the place. It wasn't just like a TV hanging over the bar area.

SPEAKER_05 25:55

That's cool. What did you have to drink when you were there?

SPEAKER_00 25:58

Well, I had I wrote these down, Dan, because I think we know I could go on about the space, and if you ask me what I had to drink, I'm gonna be like, uh Priorities, Courtney, priorities. So I wrote them down. I had TKO in Mexico, which was a Mexican lager. I had Malice in Dallas, which I don't even care what kind of beer it is.

SPEAKER_05 26:19

I was gonna order that one just for the name because Malice in Dallas, it I that just at the Palace was the name of that epic fight between the Pistons and the Indiana Pacers, like way back in the day when it spilled into the crowd. It was like Ronar Test and like people got punched. Like fans got punched, fans were punching players. So every time I hear Malice at the something, I'm like malice at the palace. So what it was called, Malice in Dallas?

SPEAKER_00 26:45

Malice in Dallas. It was a red ale. Again, the type of beer doesn't matter. Malice in Dallas, that's all I need.

SPEAKER_06 26:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:51

That was good enough for me. Then I had the the Velvet Hammer, which is supposed to be.

SPEAKER_05 27:00

Oh, I hit the wrong button. That's so funny.

SPEAKER_00 27:04

The Velvet Hammer, that's supposed to be like a beer that they're kind of known for. Um, and that one was an Imperial red ale. Royal scandal, regular pale ale, and then official beer of the supporters was very specifically the like the soccer thing, which was just another pale ale.

SPEAKER_06 27:19

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 27:20

It had an ale theme going on. Yeah. What was your favorite? I really I liked the Velvet Hammer. Like I drank that, and I can see why that's a fan favorite. The other ones were all good, but that one, that one was the standout.

SPEAKER_05 27:31

The Velvet Hammer is a nickname of a friend of mine who's a firefighter. I've talked about this before. The Velvet Hammer has come up before.

SPEAKER_00 27:40

Has it really?

SPEAKER_05 27:40

Yeah. Like his family owns the Dubliner. He's the firefighter that went to Costco, and like there's like a brand of coffee called the Velvet Hammer. So that's what they nicknamed him. Like, so it's just kind of funny. He was also like, what I think we talked about this when we were doing an episode referencing All Pines, but we went up one time and Dennis had broken up with Jody.

SPEAKER_00 28:02

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_05 28:02

Yeah. So that's the guy. That's the Velvet Hammer. Anyways, you can cut all this later.

SPEAKER_00 28:06

He's got a beer name for him in Dallas.

SPEAKER_05 28:08

That's right. He better get down there.

SPEAKER_00 28:11

So that place was really great. Okay. The next night was, well, it it could have been, if I would have ditched out on everyone, it could have been the night that I went to see Japan and Sweden play.

SPEAKER_05 28:20

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:21

But I didn't.

SPEAKER_05 28:22

That would have been Thursday. That would have been Thursday.

SPEAKER_00 28:25

I dragged all of my co-workers for our like little team building night. I dragged them all to a brewery because Good for you. Yeah, I can I can do that kind of thing. So we went to Manhattan Project, which is I've heard great things. It's been recommended by everybody that I say, I'm going to Dallas. They say, Are you going to Manhattan Project?

SPEAKER_05 28:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:42

So I've been there. It's awesome.

SPEAKER_05 28:44

What was it I would describe Arbiter as like a lager place? What was their thing?

SPEAKER_00 28:53

They had they had a lot of everything except for dark beers. They did not have a porter, they did not have a stout.

SPEAKER_06 28:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:00

And I was told that I can't remember if it was a I think it was a peanut butter porter that they have that's supposed to be really good that people told me about, but it it it's not available right now.

SPEAKER_05 29:10

A lot of breweries don't put dark beers on in the summer. I know we've talked about that in the past.

SPEAKER_00 29:14

It makes me sad.

SPEAKER_05 29:15

It makes me really sad because some of us would still be able to. Sometimes you want to drink a porter. Like in here right now, it's quite comfortable. They've got the air conditioning blasting, despite the fact that in our immediate vicinity there's a lot of bodies around us. You're surrounded by Ale Mary books.

SPEAKER_00 29:32

Wow.

SPEAKER_05 29:33

Might have to kick a couple of people in the cojones.

SPEAKER_00 29:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 29:37

So, you know, it happens.

SPEAKER_00 29:39

It happens. I I was a little bit sad about that. Their their space, they had a really nice outdoor patio space. Okay. But it's Dallas and it was too fucking hot for me to be out there.

SPEAKER_05 29:48

Yeah, that's uh that's a that's a hot one.

SPEAKER_00 29:51

That was that was not for me. And the the indoor space is is pretty small and pretty limited. They ended up setting up some tables for us back in the boohouse. Oh, cool.

SPEAKER_05 30:00

Oh, okay. That was the place.

SPEAKER_00 30:01

Yeah, I was really excited about it. Everybody else that walked back there was like, oh, what's that smell?

SPEAKER_05 30:07

Jesus, people, get some culture.

SPEAKER_00 30:09

I thought it was absolutely great.

SPEAKER_05 30:11

Oh, the elbowed them right in the cojones. We're up to four, only one more.

SPEAKER_00 30:17

But they were they were super, super nice and accommodating, and they also have food, so it was food was fantastic.

SPEAKER_05 30:24

Like, what did they have?

SPEAKER_00 30:25

Like what's they had arepas. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_05 30:28

Happens to be like one of the arepas are like corn cakes, delicious. They're Colombian. That's like a Colombian national food. I didn't know that. Yep.

SPEAKER_00 30:38

I didn't have any. It's because they had a cheese board, Dan, and if you put a cheese board. You can put cheese in an arepa. It's so good. Oh my gosh. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 30:48

Alright. Well, that's fair. So did the arepas come with like fillings or they had a bunch of different varieties that you could order.

SPEAKER_00 30:55

Lots of different options on the arepas. I know they're good, but I it was a cheese board.

SPEAKER_05 31:00

A cheese board. Well, next time you go.

SPEAKER_00 31:02

It was a really nice cheese board.

SPEAKER_05 31:04

You gotta get a cheese board and get some arepas and put some cheese in the arepas. You'll you'll thank me.

SPEAKER_00 31:09

I could do that.

SPEAKER_05 31:09

Yeah. How far is Dallas away from Austin?

SPEAKER_00 31:12

I think hours.

SPEAKER_05 31:14

Okay. Alright. Because I was like, that would be kind of a fun trip. But not in the summertime. I don't want to go to de to Texas in the summertime.

SPEAKER_00 31:21

No. I would not recommend it. It's really hot. You like the heat though. What are you talking about?

SPEAKER_05 31:26

Well, I don't, okay. I don't like I like the heat if I'm like working out or like I'm doing yard work. If I if it's hot and I'm doing yard work, the heat doesn't bother me as much. If I'm like just visiting a place and it's oppressively hot, I don't want to go sit out on a patio and have a beer. No. Because I'll melt. And so I think oppressive heat just the only way I want to experience it is if I'm already working out because I'm already going to be sweaty and gross. So it doesn't bother me.

SPEAKER_00 31:51

You've accepted.

SPEAKER_05 31:52

But if I've got like, if I'm going to dinner, I don't want to get all sweaty and gross on my way to dinner.

SPEAKER_06 31:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 31:58

Or, you know, when somebody wants to, hey, let's sit outside. And it's humid. I'm like, what are you, a psychopath? Absolutely not. And then people always say, What's the big deal? You're from Colombia. Well, okay, Jackass. Colombia isn't located in the Sahara Desert. Fun fact, Medellin, they call it the land of eternal spring. Oh. It's up in the Andes Mountains. It's like 72 degrees year round. Perfect. I don't know why I ever left. I guess I didn't really have a say, but uh so yeah. Just because somebody's from Colombia doesn't mean they can tolerate warm climates. Yeah. Also, here's another thing that's really bugging me lately. People are spelling Columbia like the jacket brand, and they need to stop. It's C O L O M B I A.

SPEAKER_00 32:46

There's not a U.

SPEAKER_05 32:47

There's not a U. A lot of people put a U there. Just a minor.

SPEAKER_00 32:51

Columbia, the brand ruined everything.

SPEAKER_05 32:52

They did. They did. I'm sorry about that. At Manhattan Beer Project.

SPEAKER_00 32:59

Yes, Manhattan Project.

SPEAKER_05 33:00

That was the one that was like it it gets rave reviews. Did you did you feel it lived up to the hype?

SPEAKER_00 33:06

Their beers were really good, and I mean we were sitting back in the brewhouse area, so it wasn't like the regular brewery space, but their regular brewery space was really super nice.

SPEAKER_05 33:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:16

It was very elegant.

SPEAKER_05 33:17

Okay. Um it What would you compare it to in the Twin Cities?

SPEAKER_00 33:20

Like I don't know. It it felt like a it felt like a place like I I would feel uncomfortable going there wearing what I'm wearing today, like jeans shorts and a tank top. It feels like I should dress a little nicer. My regular Monday outfit.

SPEAKER_05 33:39

Monday fun day dresses Lady Liberty.

SPEAKER_00 33:43

Yeah, it it felt it felt a little nice.

SPEAKER_05 33:46

Okay. Nice, like elegant or nice stuffy?

SPEAKER_00 33:49

No, nice elegant. Okay. It wasn't to the point of not pretentious. No, and the people there, like even the um just the people sitting at the bar, super, super nice. I think uh one of the the last beer that I had, I went up to order it and wasn't sure what to get. So I just asked the guy who was sitting on the bar still that next to me. And he made a great recommendation. That's the best way to know.

SPEAKER_05 34:13

I would that's a that's a good I'm glad you said that. That's always a good option. You know, if the people sitting at the bar are probably regulars, yeah. So they're not gonna steer you in the wrong direction.

SPEAKER_00 34:23

That guy was also from out of town. He was he was also there on work. So he he was not a regular, but he'd been there plenty of times before. I think he stops in there whenever he visits Dallas for work.

SPEAKER_05 34:34

Sure. Is that a place you will go back the next time you're there?

SPEAKER_00 34:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 34:37

I love it when you discover something in a town that you wind up going back to and you're like, oh, we gotta go here.

SPEAKER_00 34:43

Well, I say that, and also, I mean, the first time I went there and went to Celestial, I love that place. Oh, that's right. And I would go back there in a heartbeat, and I'm so sad that I didn't go there on this trip. But I was out, I was exploring.

SPEAKER_05 34:55

Hey, you if you can get to three breweries on a work trip, I call that a win.

SPEAKER_00 35:00

That's a pretty good win.

SPEAKER_05 35:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 35:02

Yeah. So the the beers at Manhattan Project, I had the the cherry lime bikini atoll, which was a sour goze. Am I saying it right?

unknown 35:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 35:11

Goze.

SPEAKER_05 35:12

Goes.

SPEAKER_00 35:12

I second guess every time I say it.

SPEAKER_05 35:14

Some people say goze. Some people say goza. I say goze.

SPEAKER_00 35:17

I say yummy.

SPEAKER_05 35:24

There it is. You say goza. I say yummy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 35:29

It was it was not a super, it was not a sour sour. It was just a really nice, fruity, refreshing. It's a really hot day. I'm glad I'm drinking this beer drink.

SPEAKER_06 35:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 35:39

Um, another one was Half-Life, which is a New England IPA, and it sounds like Half-Life they do a lot of different iterations on for like seasonal things and make it special once in a while. But mine was just a regular, straight up Half-Life. I had Necessary Evil, which was a uh German Pilsner, Gold Flash, which was a honey beer, redacted, which was a Japanese rice lager, and then the one that the guy recommended was a barrel-aged barley wine, and it was fabulous. You're looking for a sound.

SPEAKER_05 36:08

I love a good barrel-aged barley wine. It hits you right where you need to be hit.

SPEAKER_00 36:13

That's right. That's exactly what it does.

SPEAKER_05 36:14

In the Cajones. And thus concludes the cojones jokes for this episode.

SPEAKER_00 36:20

Yeah, so that place was pretty great. I I really enjoyed it, and I appreciate everybody who recommended going there because y'all were right. Yeah. Collectively, y'all were right.

SPEAKER_05 36:30

I was really happy just to know about these places. Because when you read about a city and you read about the breweries that are really good, it's nice to know that they live up to the hype. Yeah. And it sounds like, you know, for Petticolis and Manhattan Beer Project, they were pretty good.

SPEAKER_00 36:48

And then the last one was kind of off my radar. I was I think it was just like the next closest to my hotel, which was still a little bit of a drive. Um, it's in downtown Dallas. It's called Pegasus City Brewery. It shouldn't have been off my radar because again, I like the names of things, and Pegasus City sounds like someplace I should be.

SPEAKER_05 37:07

Yeah. Pegasus City.

SPEAKER_00 37:09

So I went there on Friday night. It's kind of like toward the end of my trip, and I was thinking I should probably not go anywhere because I was really tired. My social battery was absolutely drained.

SPEAKER_06 37:20

That's tough.

SPEAKER_00 37:20

And like, I don't I don't think I need to go anywhere, but also I do need to go somewhere because I'm here and take the opportunity while you have it.

SPEAKER_05 37:28

Isn't that the struggle of travel? Is sometimes you're just tired and you're like, I just want to lounge in the hotel.

SPEAKER_06 37:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 37:35

But then there's that voice in your head, that beer adventurer voice that says, Hey, no, you can't just stay in. You have to go out for at least one. And then once I'm out, I'm out.

SPEAKER_00 37:45

It's fine. And I I did I did plan like that's the the only place that I brought my Kindle to. And I'm like, I'm gonna go, I'm just gonna have a beer, maybe do a flight, read a book, I'm not gonna stay very long, and I'm gonna go back to the hotel and relax.

SPEAKER_05 38:00

So was that after the conference, or did you have more conference the next day?

SPEAKER_00 38:03

Nope, I did not have more conference the next day. And it yeah, okay, we can call it a conference. We don't have to get into the complications of what all that is. Sure, sure.

SPEAKER_05 38:12

So what did they have? What what did you enjoy?

SPEAKER_00 38:16

So I got there. They had a great big open space. And again, it's in like downtown. It's the only brewery that's in the downtown perimeter of Dallas. They've got some crazy, there's some that look like what I would consider downtown, but they like have weird drains on for, did I say that? Lines drawn from where they think the downtown ends.

SPEAKER_05 38:35

Drying's lawn. Who the hell is Dryne and what's noteworthy about his lawn?

SPEAKER_00 38:40

So they they claim that they are the only ones actually downtown. But they still have this outdoor patio space. It's not on the sidewalk, it's next to their it's next to their building. And they have two Pegasi, Pegasus' painted statues, kind of like I likened them and I asked them, you know, we've got the the cows that have rotated around the Twin Cities and the little Charlie Brown things that get painted by various artists and are on display. I thought maybe that that's they had something similar in in Dallas. Um, but no, those were just something that they did on their own, I guess.

SPEAKER_05 39:14

Well, that's fun.

SPEAKER_00 39:15

They were really neat. It was it was really cool. So as soon as I saw those, I think like started feeling a little bit better. Like, this is gonna be fun.

SPEAKER_05 39:21

A Pegasus is a neat creature. So if that's your mascot, there's a lot of fun things you can do with decor, merch, all that stuff.

SPEAKER_00 39:30

Yeah. So I I went inside and the beer tender was immediately awesome. I ordered my flight, and one of the beers that I got was a Mexican lager. And he looks at me and he's like, Do you want a tahin rim on that? And I'm like, I don't know, do I? And he says, Yeah, I think you do.

SPEAKER_05 39:46

Nothing wrong with a tahine rim.

SPEAKER_00 39:48

He promised me that it was gonna look really pretty for pictures, and I had not even identified myself as someone who's gonna be taking a lot of really obnoxious pictures.

SPEAKER_05 39:55

I think they just assume these days that you're gonna see it in my face. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 39:59

Yeah. He was not wrong. That like I kind of want a tahine rim on all of the Mexican.

SPEAKER_05 40:04

Tahine is so good. It's so good. It just makes everything better.

SPEAKER_00 40:07

Yeah. So he put like ribbed it with lime and then dipped it in the tahine, and it it was amazing.

SPEAKER_05 40:12

You know, I'll let you in on a little secret. When I want to have a really good night's sleep, I'll put a little tahine on my crest before I brush my teeth. And it's like I'm getting a dental exam in Guadalajara.

SPEAKER_00 40:24

Oh my.

SPEAKER_05 40:24

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 40:25

I've not tried that, Dan.

SPEAKER_05 40:26

Well, get on that train because it's leaving the station. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 40:31

They they had a huge variety of beers. Like they had some dark beers, they had a little bit of everything. So I had a flight there. The the building that they're in is an Art Deco building.

SPEAKER_06 40:42

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 40:43

So it it was really super, super cool inside. Um, their whole bar area, super comfortable bar stools, Dan. Oh, that's you when I was there.

SPEAKER_05 40:52

Which is apropos because we're sitting at Wandering Leaf, and Wandering Leaf has the most comfortable bar furniture, brewery furniture, I think, in St. Paul.

SPEAKER_00 41:03

Yeah. These guys at Pegasus City, they might have the most comfortable bar furniture in Dallas.

SPEAKER_05 41:07

Yeah, that's good. It makes sense. Makes you want to stay longer.

SPEAKER_00 41:10

Well, and I sure did. I ended up sitting down and had a regular on one side of me, his name was Aaron, who lived nearby, so he was giving me the lowdown on the brewery. There was another guy who came, his name is Russell, and his dog jumped up into the bar stool on the other side of me. They immediately put a little towel down on the counter and put a bowl of water out for the dog. And that dog just sat there, like drank some water, put her head on the on the bar. It was it was very cool.

SPEAKER_06 41:39

That's sweet.

SPEAKER_00 41:39

It's again one of those things, like these people, this is where they go. That's their place of comfort. Like it was it was very cool.

SPEAKER_05 41:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 41:46

But ended up staying there talking with people until they closed.

SPEAKER_05 41:49

That's great. I love closing down a brewery.

SPEAKER_00 41:52

So the night I wasn't gonna go anywhere.

SPEAKER_05 41:55

Sometimes those unplanned things wind up being like the best night of the trip because you wind up talking with somebody. The same thing happened to me in Louisville. I was like, oh, there's a bar right up the street. Maybe I'll just go there for one drink. And then I stumbled upon the most epically curated bourbon selection that I found, and it was so easy on the pocketbook. And then a lady came and sat next to me, and we started chatting, and she found out I was a teacher, and she was buying me drinks because she loves teachers, and it was just a fabulous evening all around. That's how it's but I was like, you know, I fly out the next day. I'm not sure if I really want to do much. Nobody else I was in town, so I was just by myself. But yeah, I went out and I'm so happy I did.

SPEAKER_00 42:41

Yeah, that was I that was definitely a night. Like I need to think about that night the next time I'm like, oh, I'm just gonna stay home.

SPEAKER_05 42:47

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 42:48

No.

SPEAKER_05 42:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 42:49

Get your butt out there.

SPEAKER_05 42:50

Yeah, because you're you know, you're in a different place. You never know. But I think that's a good, just a good thing. You know, don't put off having a fun time or the potential to have meet a new friend or have a great experience at a restaurant or a coffee shop or a brewery. And if you just stay home, you don't then then there's 100% no chance of that. There's no chance. So that's good.

SPEAKER_00 43:11

Yeah, I was I was very, very happy.

SPEAKER_05 43:13

It was you were living the ethos of the brewery adventure. I like this I was. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 43:17

I was doing the thing. Fantastic. Except I didn't tell any of them that I had a podcast, and I'd be talking about them.

SPEAKER_05 43:24

You shouldn't have to be a good thing. Oh, by the way, you need to market your the podcast better.

SPEAKER_00 43:30

I can't.

SPEAKER_05 43:31

Then they could send us some pegasi in the mail. Did they have tin signs? I bet the pegasi tin sign looked pretty dope.

SPEAKER_00 43:38

I don't remember seeing tin signs there, but I did see them at Petty Cola's and I should have I saw them like I should get Dan one of those. But that what if he's never heard of this place and like this is not on his beer radar?

SPEAKER_05 43:49

I mean, I think a tin sign always makes a great gift.

SPEAKER_00 43:52

Now I know.

SPEAKER_05 43:52

But then it would be an impetus for me to go there and check it out.

SPEAKER_00 43:57

So Oh, I like this. Yeah, it's a good plan.

SPEAKER_05 44:00

Just don't get me a inside. Hey ooh. Because their beer is no good. Drinking that beer is like a knee to the cojones of your palate. Hey, bonus cojones joke. So Dallas is good. Five out of five stars. Yeah. Did you have any barbecue?

SPEAKER_00 44:18

Uh we had barbecue brought in one day from lunch.

SPEAKER_05 44:22

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 44:22

It was really good. Yeah. But it was apparently from like a I don't it wasn't like a fancy barbecue place.

SPEAKER_05 44:28

Good barbecue places for me are never fancy. It's always a little hole in the wall places. There's no white plate.

SPEAKER_00 44:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 44:36

It's just a tray with some butcher paper on it.

SPEAKER_00 44:38

That's some size. Butcher paper and a bunch of containers with it.

SPEAKER_05 44:42

And that's how it should be. There's a place in Kansas City called Q39, and all their stuff is zhuzged up to the point of being annoying. It's fine. People are like, yeah, you gotta go to Q39. I'm like, this was kind of a waste. I don't know. The brisket was like laid out in like perfectly manicured slices, and there was like a drizzle of sauce.

SPEAKER_00 45:00

My barbecue doesn't need to be pretty.

SPEAKER_05 45:02

Get out of here. Get out of town and take a bus.

SPEAKER_00 45:05

Let me tell you who I think had good barbecue in Texas. Uh, Willard from Grunge Unplugged was also there at the same time I was. I saw pictures that he was posting, and I'm like, oh, are you in Texas? I'm in Texas. He was somewhere in the Fort Worth area. I think his barbecue experience looked far more amazing than.

SPEAKER_05 45:23

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 45:23

You've got to get coordinates for the next time you go there, and then you can I showed I showed some of the pictures to my co-workers and they told me, oh, that's really far away.

SPEAKER_05 45:32

It's the Dallas Fort Worth area.

SPEAKER_00 45:34

I know.

SPEAKER_05 45:34

How far can it be?

SPEAKER_00 45:35

I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 45:36

If they mention it in the same breath, it's like the Twin Cities, Minneapolis, St. Paul.

SPEAKER_00 45:40

Yeah. St.

SPEAKER_05 45:40

Paul's 20 minutes away from Minneapolis.

SPEAKER_00 45:42

Yeah. I don't know, I don't know disagree.

SPEAKER_05 45:44

I need to have a talk with your coworkers.

SPEAKER_00 45:46

So I knew Willard was down there.

SPEAKER_05 45:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 45:48

What I didn't know is that I would be sitting in the airport watching him board my flight.

SPEAKER_05 45:56

Stalker. What now?

SPEAKER_00 45:57

I know.

SPEAKER_05 45:59

Hey, you're the lady from the restraining order, don't you?

SPEAKER_00 46:02

Yeah, you know, it kind of feels like that, Dan. Yeah. So I saw him get on my flight, and I was immediately texting you and some other people going, Oh my God.

SPEAKER_05 46:11

Was he carrying a cajon? Because that would have been interesting.

SPEAKER_00 46:14

I d I don't I don't I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 46:17

I don't know what's in that carry-on.

SPEAKER_00 46:19

Yeah. So then I had I got on the plane and had to walk by him. He was in the aisle seat, and I was trying to not be like, oh yeah, I just saw you bored. You didn't see me freaking out in the airport about it.

SPEAKER_05 46:32

Oh, you were the woman who needed medical attention. I get it now.

SPEAKER_00 46:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 46:36

Yeah. Well that's fun.

SPEAKER_00 46:38

Who knew? It was not planned. I didn't know what was happening.

SPEAKER_05 46:41

Call that happy little accidents. You know? That's fun.

SPEAKER_00 46:44

That's funny. They're probably not gonna let me into their next show. I'm gonna show up and they're gonna be like, you cannot be here.

SPEAKER_05 46:56

Oh, geez.

SPEAKER_00 46:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 46:57

I need a fake mustache to sneak by security.

SPEAKER_00 47:00

Yeah. You have like a little wanted sign. This lady, no entry.

SPEAKER_05 47:05

Yeah. No, you're like one of their biggest supporters, you know.

SPEAKER_00 47:08

I mean Willard and I fly together.

SPEAKER_05 47:10

There it is. You have to be at the shows. That is kind of funny. I mean, not that he'll ever listen to this, but Bruce Springsteen and I, we enjoy the modern museum of art in Manhattan. And we shared quite a moment on an elevator once. And I like to think it meant as much to him as it did to me, but I'm sure he's sitting somewhere talking about you right now. That's right.

SPEAKER_00 47:32

I'm positive.

SPEAKER_05 47:33

That jackass hit all the buttons on the thing, so it took 17 minutes to get to the basement.

SPEAKER_00 47:38

It could be true.

SPEAKER_05 47:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 47:40

So got back on Saturday. Yep. And then Saturday night.

SPEAKER_05 47:44

Just in time for the World Cup Battle of Two countries that don't like each other when they get on the football pitch.

SPEAKER_00 47:53

Really? They don't like each other?

SPEAKER_05 47:54

I don't know. I'm gonna assume because there was a lot of pushing and shoving.

SPEAKER_00 47:57

There was.

SPEAKER_05 47:58

But we went to La Donia Cerveceria, which is now a brew pub. And if you want more on that, you can go to a1pintstand.com and find my whole interview with Dickie Lopez about that transition.

SPEAKER_00 48:09

And you should listen to that simply for Dickie's voice.

SPEAKER_05 48:12

Yes. If you think that velvety goodness only belongs in a dessert, go listen to that episode of the podcast because his voice is so soothing and so resonant. It just is comfortable. We could have been talking about long division and it would have been a treat to listen. So we went there because they are one of the really great places to watch a World Cup game. Yeah. And they've got great drink specials there. Super Classico light lager. Five dollars. Five dollars. I mean, there's not a lot of places you can go and find a beer for five dollars. So that's a great deal.

SPEAKER_00 48:53

And it's a great beer.

SPEAKER_05 48:54

And it's a great beer. Of course, Ledonia has always been connected to soccer. Yeah. They have their little kind of like 3v3 soccer area outside. Very, very much a soccer place. And they've been touting as you know a place to go to Jesus.

SPEAKER_00 49:11

They've been doing a lot of watch parties. So they have um they've been publishing regularly a list of what their featured match is gonna be, but then they will also have some of the other matches on smaller TVs. But they had a big projector screen back in the back area.

SPEAKER_05 49:24

Yeah, yeah. So we sat at the bar, but a lot of other TVs around. Because I always like to sit at the bar and we got flies coming for us.

SPEAKER_00 49:32

Coming for you.

SPEAKER_05 49:33

Oh, I almost got them. I can I can catch flies. I was really enthused to go there. It was fun to see mostly Colombian fans.

SPEAKER_00 49:43

By far, mostly Colombian fans.

SPEAKER_05 49:45

I'm gonna say something right now that I don't think is news to anyone. And I don't while I don't count myself in this underneath this umbrella, but the Colombian people are a beautiful people. And I was real happy to see so many of them there. There was a handful of Portugal fans, but Colombia had already won the group, so they were still playing hard, but wound up being a zero-zero tie. But I'll tell you what, as we were sitting there at the bar, we felt like winners because we were enjoying some beer with some great conversation. The gentleman sitting to your right, Mark, from Chile.

SPEAKER_00 50:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 50:20

And he was big, big into soccer, football, all over the past. And I think again, that's why you sit at the bar. You never know who you're gonna meet. But they were making talk about Tahin rims. There was a lot of tahine being rimmed. A lot of glass. We can cut that out. Uh yeah, you said. Who's Tahen? Uh why was he no, but lots of lots of drinks, lots of margaritas, lots of beers. The food. I'd never had food there before other than their tacos when it was uh just the previous two becoming a uh brew pub.

SPEAKER_06 51:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 51:03

Their menu is expanded. The one thing I don't understand, they have a great menu of Latin Mexican favorites. And they're like, pizza's coming soon. I get that pizza is a very great food to pair with beer, but they have other great foods. They have really, yeah. They're there, and there was stuff that, you know, I thought looked good. But we went with the yucca fries and the nachos. Yeah. Their choices for nacho proteins were chicken, steak, and then anytime I see Al Pastor as an option for anything, I'm getting that. Alpastore is very good. So we got Alpastore nachos. The chips, I don't know what sort of wizardry they use to make those chips, but those are the those are my favorite kind of chips. I think they're actual like tortillas, handmade tortillas that are fried. Really, really good now. And this is not necessarily a complaint. It's more of a, you know, I think maybe nachos are tricky because a lot of places they want to give you enough chips to get all the toppings, but they don't think about how to make sure toppings wind up. They don't make sure enough toppings wind up on every chip. And I think that was a part of an issue that they had because it was all kind of clumped. And then there were chips. I was like, oh for five. On the first five chips I grabbed, I was like, will there be toppings? Nope. Nope. Will there be toppings on this one? Nope. And then you had the bright idea, like, okay, let's just mix up the toppings. Yeah. And I'm like, okay.

SPEAKER_00 52:25

And again, it's not visually appealing anymore. Right.

SPEAKER_05 52:28

But you shouldn't have to do that. You should everything, it's layers.

SPEAKER_00 52:33

Yes.

SPEAKER_05 52:33

So when I make nachos at home, I do several layers.

SPEAKER_00 52:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 52:37

And make sure there's a little bit on each layer.

SPEAKER_00 52:40

No naked chips.

SPEAKER_05 52:41

You do no naked chips. And then because you do a reined-in amount of toppings, nothing gets soggy. So by the end of it, like the chips that were left were pretty soggy.

SPEAKER_06 52:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 52:52

But everything tasted good. The taste was great. I wanted more protein.

SPEAKER_06 52:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 52:57

I wanted a little bit more. It was heavy on the lettuce.

SPEAKER_06 52:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 52:59

Maybe a little light on the protein. You know, and you know, if you're paying 20 bucks for a nacho platter, I want to see, you know, I want to see some excitement. Yucca fries, I love yucca fries. That cilantro mayo delicious.

SPEAKER_00 53:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 53:12

So that was fun. There's a lot of other stuff on that menu that I'd like to go back and try.

SPEAKER_00 53:17

Yeah. So we've got more soccer to watch over here. We do.

SPEAKER_05 53:20

Soccer goes for like another month.

SPEAKER_00 53:21

Everybody was so excited and into the match that was happening. Like that's that's where I want to go watch soccer now.

SPEAKER_05 53:28

Oh, it's so frustrating because Columbia, they should have they should have scored. They have so many shots that they've got seven, eight goals.

SPEAKER_00 53:34

Yeah. And every time there'd be such a reaction, like a collective reaction from everyone in the room.

SPEAKER_05 53:39

Don't be a soccer fan if you have high blood pressure. Not a good game. Because it's a very that was a very tense game and finished in a 0-0 tie. But Colombia won their group, so that's really all I care about. If you're looking for a place to watch the World Cup, La Donia Cerveceria should be on your list.

SPEAKER_00 53:54

Absolutely should be on your list. Or if you just want some good food and a couple beers. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 53:58

I mean you don't have to go there just for the World Cup. You can go there because the day ended in a Y.

SPEAKER_00 54:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 54:03

And you'll you'll w walk away happy.

SPEAKER_00 54:05

Yeah. So I really like it there. Plus, as soon as you walk in the door, everything's so colorful and fun. It's like your mood instantly changes when you walk in the door.

SPEAKER_05 54:14

And that's one of the few places in the Twin Cities where you walk in and you're like, oh, I'm at home. It's all the Latino people. Here we go. This is comforting.

SPEAKER_00 54:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 54:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 54:25

So they do a good job over there. Some some sad news before we get into upcoming events. There was an article that came out that Trove, one of my favorite places, has filed for bankruptcy. They're still in business, they're still doing business. You can still go down there and have have a beer. I think they're trying to make things work. But I think this is a it's a reminder for all of us that if you enjoy craft beer and breweries, go support your people. Go stop in and grab a beer. If there's someplace near you that you haven't been to, go check it out. Like these places might not last forever. Most of them are run by really incredible people. Jeffrey's a great guy. Trove is an incredible person. He's a good beers are good. Their beers are great.

SPEAKER_05 55:08

I'm gonna say this, and I hope there's no blowback, but they're down there with the, you know, there's you've got Bricksworth, you've got Ineffable, and you've got Trove. Yeah. Ineffable is not in the same weight class as Bricksworth and Trove. Yes. Bricksworth and Trove, their beers are just better. And I don't think you can make an argument against that. Yeah. And it's just, for me, sometimes it's frustrating when a brewery with good beer is struggling financially when a place with very subpar beer is open. And I I got I don't know anything about Ineffable's finances, but heaven forbid if Trove has to close, like that's unfortunate.

SPEAKER_00 55:46

I don't want that.

SPEAKER_05 55:47

That should not, that should not happen. If there's a brewery to subtract from the equation down there, it's ineffable. Because this day and age, if you're making beer that's that's not good, I don't know. I I that's all. Yeah. Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.

SPEAKER_00 56:01

It was a good TED Talk. Yeah. I like it.

SPEAKER_05 56:03

But yeah, so we were talking before we pressed record, they're gonna be doing some sort of like Trove party.

SPEAKER_00 56:13

Yeah coming up. So I'll I'll post more stuff about that if they make it a public thing.

SPEAKER_05 56:18

Yeah, cool, cool, cool.

SPEAKER_00 56:19

But otherwise, you know, if you haven't been to Trove before, go check them out. Say hi to Jeffrey, he'd be happy to see you. Yeah. And just if there's there's other places by you, like go go support your local neighborhood places.

SPEAKER_05 56:31

Right, right. Yeah, that's too bad. Unfortunately, I I think the economic times are tough. Tariffs are screwing over everybody. There's a lot of things working against breweries right now. Yeah. And you know, you can Trove is an example. You can have really good beer and still be struggling because that's just the world we're living in for food places and coffee shops and all that stuff.

SPEAKER_00 56:53

So go visit Trove.

SPEAKER_05 56:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 56:55

Tell me when you're going. I'll go with. Um upcoming events. You can get into it, Dan.

SPEAKER_05 56:59

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 57:00

All pines North.

SPEAKER_05 57:01

I'm doing a Pinewood Derby.

SPEAKER_00 57:03

I'm just kidding.

SPEAKER_05 57:04

All pines North. That's right. It's on Saturday, August 1st, 2026, up at Bayfront Park in Duluth. Sunny, breezy Duluth, Minnesota.

SPEAKER_00 57:13

It's a beautiful, beautiful location. Yep. And very sadly, this sounds like the last year that they're going to be in Duluth for All Pints.

SPEAKER_05 57:20

Yeah. And All Pints will continue. It's just going to be Elsewhere. Elsewhere. Which, you know, as long as they find a different location that is probably better for people and more financially accessible for breweries. Duluth in the summertime is ridiculously expensive. And shame on the city of Duluth for not working with the Brewer's Guild to make things a little bit more affordable because, yeah, you've got tourists up there regardless. But one thing I know about the Kraft Beer folks, after a festival, they want to go eat and drink.

SPEAKER_00 57:55

Give me more.

SPEAKER_05 57:56

And you and keep your Uber drivers busy.

SPEAKER_00 57:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 57:59

So I don't understand why it's more expensive to go to Duluth than it is to go to Manhattan, but that's where we're at.

SPEAKER_06 58:08

It's pretty.

SPEAKER_05 58:09

And unfortunately, for the breweries, if they're struggling to make payroll, bringing four people up to spend two nights because thanks Duluth for making it a two-night minimum stay, which is highway robbery. So it's financially not really a priority for a lot of breweries, which is a shame because when it started, everybody wanted to go up there. And everybody did go up there. It was like it was like summer camp for two days. It was just so fun. God. So I am going to be real excited to go have one last all pine snort hurrah in the city by the Gitchigumi. And yeah, maybe we'll go back to that cocktail bar with no air conditioning where you almost lost an eye thanks to a pineapple frond.

SPEAKER_00 58:52

Oh my god. That was the weekend of eye problems.

SPEAKER_05 58:56

The weekend of eye problems. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 58:58

That's not gonna happen again.

SPEAKER_05 58:59

So yeah, buy tickets. I'm guessing it will sell out well before the weekend because people want to go.

SPEAKER_00 59:06

I certainly hope so. Yeah. If you've never been, or if you haven't been in a while, or if you go every year, get your ticket, get up there.

SPEAKER_05 59:13

Yeah. And you can go to mncraftbrew.org to buy tickets. They're on sale now. And if you want to volunteer, oh yeah. There's a there's a button on their website to volunteer. So if you volunteer, you get a free ticket, and you just have to do like a couple hours, and then you can go sample your way around the festival. It's always really fun. A lot of the breweries go all out with their booth displays.

SPEAKER_06 59:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 59:36

There's great music, there's great food trucks. If it's hot, there's a misting tent, which I wound up spending a lot of time.

SPEAKER_06 59:43

I was a big fan of the misting tent. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 59:44

That was where we would like, that was like our rendezvous point last year. Meet me at the misting tent.

SPEAKER_06 59:48

Okay, be there.

SPEAKER_05 59:50

So that was good. Yeah. So sad, but my pocketbook is not sad. I will miss going up to Earthrider and going to Urza Minor and going to Bentpadle and all the other fun shenanigans that you get up to when you're when you're there.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:04

So I think we'll have to just pick like a different weekend for Duluth Brewery weekend.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:09

I would like to actually go up in the fall.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:11

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:12

And try some of their fall beers. And then that would be fun. So and I've heard the Glen Sheen Mansion does a cool Halloween thing. So I like that. Maybe that could be something. I don't know. TBD on that one. To be determined.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:25

We have other events coming up. Boom Island has their anniversary party on July 11th.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:31

The Big One Five.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:32

The Big One Five.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:32

The brewery can now get a learner's permit. So that's exciting. Stay off the sidewalks, kids.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:38

Grunge Unplugged will be playing.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:40

At their party?

SPEAKER_00 1:00:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:42

Oh boy. So if you want to see Courtney get tased as she approaches the stage, show up to Boom Island.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:48

Oh man, if they try to kick me out of there, that's going to be a sad day.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:52

They won't kick you out.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:54

So that's on July 11th. Then on July 17th, you can speak more about this because I took it.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:00

Oh, another thing on July 11th, which is, I just realized this I will not be at the Boom Island thing. I'll be up in sunny Moorhead, Minnesota for the rare beer picnic.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:09

That's right.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:10

In Viking Ship Park. Is there a Viking ship? There is a Viking ship.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:14

Can you go in it?

SPEAKER_05 1:01:15

Yeah, it's like a little, I mean, it's not like the thing Eric the Red sailed on, but it's a it's like a little climbing structure.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:22

For kids?

SPEAKER_05 1:01:22

Kids and adults who had enough beer.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:25

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:26

So I plan on doing it. So I'm gonna be going up there. That'll be really fun. That'll be on the tail end. I'm doing like a little mini trip. I'm heading out to Mandan, North Dakota to visit Two Trax Malting. And I'm really excited because I've only really been to one really teeny tiny malt house in Michigan, and that was nine years ago. So a long time. And I've been to RAR, yeah, uh BSG down in Shakopee, but I'm excited to go to Two Trax because they've won some awards for their malt, and a lot of breweries in the Twin Cities use their malt, and the beers that they make with it are really good. Probably most notably the Broken Clock Brewing Cooperative Farmade beer used malt from Two Track, and that was a really, really great beer. So I'm excited to go out there.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:12

Are you gonna haul some malt back with you to save anyone on shipping fees? We'll see.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:18

I don't know how many 55-pound bags of malt I'll be able to fit in my car.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:23

I think a lot.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:23

We'll try. Yeah, we'll try. I'll just get some spongy cords.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:27

I'll just hold it with my hand as I'm driving back. I got it. I got it. It's fine. Yeah, so I'm excited about that. So that's also on July 11th. So we'll have we'll be dividing and conquering. You take the Metro, I'll take the Northern climbs.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:39

And then we'll talk about it later.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:41

Right.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:41

After that, on July 17th at Barrel Theory, they are doing a beer release and a documentary screening.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:49

A documentary screening. There's uh Bring Change Collaborative, a group that I am a proud member of to highlight inclusivity and diversity in craft beer. I don't have the mission statement memorized. If Bree or Elle were here, they would know. But basically, it is a group of people in and around Kraft Beer who happen to be identify as people of color. And Antea Zachary, as part of a grant that she got for her studies, made a short film about Bree Smith, who is the head brewer at Modest, and Bree Smith is the first black woman brewer in the state of Minnesota. And so it chronicled her career and her story, and it's really well done. So they've done, in partnership, Brewing Change brewed a pale ale beer at four different breweries. It was called Deepale, Pale Ale. So they did it at Wooden Chip, Modest, Bad Weather, and they are brewing it on Barrel Theory has not brewed theirs yet. So they're gonna brew it, and all of the recipes are a little different. I the two I've I haven't tried the wander the excuse me, not wandering ship. I have not tried the wooden ship version yet, but I tried the bad weather version and the modest version, and they're both very good, very different. Modest is more of a modern take on a pale ale. Pretty clean, very bright. Yeah. Just really easy drinking. Bad weather leaned more into the British pale ale. It's a little darker, a little roastier, more earthy and floral, and I know that wooden ship used, I want to say jasmine tea. Ooh. And some citrus fruit in theirs.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:34

Oh, I bet that was good.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:35

Yeah. Everybody said it was great. I just hadn't haven't been over there yet to try it. But if you go and try any of them, you should pick up a punch card because if you try all four beers and then turn it in, you can be entered to win a pretty cool prize. You know how I like a punch card, Dan? All four breweries. Those are none of those breweries are slouches. They're very cool breweries that everybody would love to have a hat or a shirt or a temporary tattoo on your face of any of those four breweries.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:04

So I don't know about my face.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:06

You gotta live a little. Couldn't you just say that like, you know, you know, practice what you preach. Don't stay inside, go to a brewery, get a face down. That's what you said earlier. So that's that's happening, and the the film is really good.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:18

So I remember watching the film on Anthea's cell phone, I think. Yeah. It it's amazing.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:25

It was really good. And it's just it's neat to see when people put their efforts into a really cool project to really celebrate something that's truly special.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:36

I think a lot of people don't really they don't really I don't want to say they're not giving it to do, but the fact that Brie is where she is is really cool. Yeah. I think she works her ass off, she's incredibly smart, and Modest is lucky to have her.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:51

Yes, they are.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:52

I think that's that's pretty cool. So yeah, that's uh so have that on your radar.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:57

That was July seventeenth at Barrel Theory and then July 18th. It's another event you know about.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:03

Yeah, so let me ask you a question, Courtney. Do you like hops?

SPEAKER_00 1:06:07

I do.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:08

Do you like beer?

SPEAKER_00 1:06:10

I do.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:11

Do you like biking?

SPEAKER_00 1:06:12

Yeah, I do.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:13

Okay, because all those things can be combined if you go to loose line brewing on Saturday, July 18th. They are doing a hoptacular celebration. It's like a mini beer festival. So it's being sponsored by Hollingberry Hops, and it's a hop farm out there on the West Coast. Juno Choi, one of the co-founders of Arbiter, works for Hollingberry. And so Hollingberry is sponsoring this thing. This is the second year they did it last year, and there's going to be a bunch of great breweries kind of showcasing.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:44

Were we out this last year?

SPEAKER_05 1:06:45

We did go, yes. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:47

I've been to Hoptacular.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:48

You've been to Hoptacular. I went early and biked. Yes. That was my first introduction to a gravel bike path, which holy Toledo. My crotch was on fire. And then I met you and Aaron from Lupilin, and we hung out on the patio and drank some really great beer, and it was really fun.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:08

So for some reason, like I know you went biking, but I didn't realize that was like a part of was that just something you did or is biking extracting. So but I didn't remember the biking aspect was a part of the event.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:20

Some people get a little psycho about drinking beer. They're like, well, I have to earn my beer. I'm like, I do not feel like I feel like just the simple fact that you got up in the morning is a good enough reason to earn your beer. You do not let's let's let's not make people feel like they need to earn things that they enjoy. No. Obviously, our souls need nourishment, and beer is that. So don't tell me I need to earn my the nourishment for my soul, because that's bullshit. But I decided, because I've never been on the loose line trail, I wanted to give it a try, so I got there early, did a nice bike ride, and then afterwards, beer tastes really good after a bike ride. I don't know if you know this. You know this, but do the listeners know this?

SPEAKER_00 1:07:58

It's a little extra after a bike ride.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:00

Yeah, it just really hits in a special way. It's very refreshing. And I don't know about you, but after a bike ride, I become quite thirsty.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:08

Yeah, well, and as we were told here at Wandering Leaf, if it's like a 5% beer, that's hydration.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:14

That's right.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:15

That's simple hydration.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:16

Well, if you want to get technical, every beer is hydration because it's mostly water. Now, on a day like today, you should drink some water separate from your beer, but beer's okay too. So that's gonna be fun. There's some great breweries that are gonna be there. Do you like Forager Brewery? Do you like Back Channel? Do you like Lupulin? Do you like Arbiter? There's some good, and there's other ones on there that are escaping me now. But in about a week and a half, if you go over to a1pintstand.com, there will be a whole podcast about the Loose Line Brewing Hoptacular, and you can hear all the details about the beers. And Loose Line, they are kicking ass and taking names when it comes to their hop forward beers. When we did the podcast, we had some great ones. Uh, some West Coast beers, some hazy beers, and when I recorded it, Brent sent me away with quite a nice little care package of beers. So, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:11

He he gave me a little four-pack of deliciousness at Dunges Man in the world. Did you drink them yet? I I drank a couple of them, Dan.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:18

Nice. Did you have the window shopping? Because that was a collab between loose line and forager.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:22

I haven't had that.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:23

That one is outstanding.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:25

Alright, I'm gonna go.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:27

That's the blue and yellow one. Yeah. Okay. Make sure you have that. It's it's delicious.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:30

Yeah, they just did an actual bike event though, where they did um from loose line to back channel.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:37

They they did a bike event between the two breweries.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:39

Yeah, that would have been fun.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:40

And bummed them to sit.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:42

Yeah. So Hoptacular July 18th. There's a lot of fun stuff coming. And you know, just like go to your favorite brewery's social media page. There's there's so many things in the summertime. I mean, just great.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:53

My last event shout-out is going to be for heavy rotation on July 24th for the beer release of Grunjump Hog's beer that they brewed. Right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:01

And what style of beer is that one again? It's like the pineapple. Maybe yeah, they did something 40. I don't know that it was a sour.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:09

I think it was a I forget the actual style of beer. I don't think it was a sour though.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:13

Alright, fun. Well, you know that they don't use lactose. So if you're lactose intolerant, you can drink that. You can leave the lactate in the glove compartment and go on and take the old governor off your liver and have a fun time while you listen to some great music. And potentially watch Courtney be escorted out by security.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:35

Could happen there, too.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:35

It could happen. Yeah. That's exciting. A lot of fun stuff.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:38

A lot of fun stuff. And there's I mean, there's plenty of other things happening that we don't have on our little tiny list.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:44

Well, there'll be more, and I know that you know it's only a matter of time until we start talking about Oktoberfest again. Because I know that Oktoberfest beers are already brewed and will be flooding the market soon.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:57

I mean, that's true. I feel like they started coming out around August last year.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:01

It felt earlier.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:02

They're gonna be coming out earlier this year.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:04

Oh. I mean, yay, but also I just want to have a little bit of summer.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:08

Yeah, yeah. Same reason why I want to set fire to the school supply section in Target when it comes out like the middle of June.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:15

No, that's not necessary. Yeah. Well, Dan, I think that's gonna wrap it up wrap it up for us here at Wanderingly because I can't be able to do that.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:23

I've been sitting in an empty glass. I'm like so parched. Although I did drink a ton of water when I was in the sauna.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:28

I was a little concerned when I went to grab that for you and you said you wanted the 12 ounce. I'm like, why am I not getting you a taller beer?

SPEAKER_05 1:11:34

I figured I we would take a break, but we just kept talking. This is a very engaging podcast. So not only to listen to, but also to record.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:42

So we've got a lot to say.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:44

We had a lot to say.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:45

Yeah. Where can people find you if they want to hear more things you have to say, Dan?

SPEAKER_05 1:11:48

Well, you know, if you're looking for more things that I have to say, you can go to Instagram, Facebook. I don't do Twitter because Elon Musk is a psycho. I'm on Mastodon, X, whatever. It'll always be Twitter to me. Just like it'll always be Dayton's.

SPEAKER_06 1:12:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:03

And just search up a one pint stand if you want to read some stuff or find podcasts all in one location, a onepintstand.com.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:10

That's the place to be.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:11

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:12

I am Courtney. You can find me at thebreweryadventure.com or on Instagram, the BreweryAdventure. Make sure you put in T-H-E at the front, otherwise you're on someone else's adventure.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:21

And it won't be nearly as fun.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:23

It won't be nearly as fun. We will see you next time. Thank you for listening. And again, go visit the brewery near you or the brewery that you haven't been to, that you had your eye on. Just go get out there, go try some beers, meet some people, have a good time.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:38

Yeah, I agree.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:40

Alright, that's all we've got. Cheers to you with your empty glass.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:43

Seven years ago.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:45

I hope that's not true. I'm gonna bomb the beer.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:47

I'm gonna go get another beer.